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No confidence vote delivered to Ettling

Associate News Editor

Published: Friday, February 26, 2010

Updated: Saturday, February 27, 2010

 

 

 

According to a press release sent from James McCartney, president of New York University Police Officer’s Union, university police at Plattsburgh State delivered PSUC President John Ettling a vote of no confidence in their management against Chief of Police Arlene Sabo, Assistant Chief Jerry Lottie and Vice President of Student Affairs William Laundry at 3:30 this afternoon.

According to the press release, the vote of no confidence stems from the fact that the university police system is a de-centralized system within SUNY, which allows for police management "to operate outside of the rules with no consequence or repercussion."

"We do not take this vote lightly, this no confidence vote illustrates a crucial need for change at SUNY Plattsburgh," McCartney said in the press release.

Within the vote of no confidence, Sabo, Lottie and Laundry are accused of refusing to work in good faith with the labor force, failing to support its officers, mismanaging policy, procedures, staffing and case management, having had a history or poor decision making and creating a hostile work environment through things such as manipulation and intimidation.

According to this document, these reasons, along with others not mentioned within the document, were reasons the vote of no confidence was issued to Ettling.

Within the document it states that Sabo, Lottie and Laundry have harassed officers, saying that in the past, officers have been told they cannot talk to each other while on duty and have been "questioned and ridiculed" because of union involvement. It went on to say that Sabo and Lottie "constantly belittle, intimidate and threaten officers."

The document also states that Sabo, Lottie and Laundry are in the middle of a civil lawsuit for violating the rights of an officer within the department. It went on to state that incidents at PSUC have been "down-played or covered-up," while negative influences to the overall safety of the college have been ignored. Also, the document stated that Sabo and Lottie "favor politics over justice and safety when evaluating officer’s actions and arrests," and that there has been an abuse of power.

In addition, the document states that Sabo, Lottie and Laundry "seldom discuss labor issues," and that there has been a break -down of communication, leading to a "my way or no way" stance from Sabo Lottie and Laundry.

Ettling said he has still not determined what course of action he wants to take on the matter, since he has never been involved in a situation of this sort.

"Once I find that out I’ll call them (university police) and set up a meeting at some point," Ettling said.

Ettling said he received calls on the issue from local media outlets today before the vote of no confidence was even given to him.

"Somebody wanted it out in the hands of the local media before it was given to me," Ettling said.

The vote of no confidence was signed by officers Kevin Phair, Robert Light, Darren Barcomb, Jon Bombard, Paula St. Clair, Erich Pflanz, Thomas Sullivan and Eric Zielinski.

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19 comments

Mike
Tue Apr 13 2010 15:49
Wow! It amazes me that comments are made when truly the whole story has yet to be released. Obviously there is a problem that needs to be addressed. Maybe everyone should pause and look at this from both sides. These officers are represented by union. City politics alone have shown us how difficult it is for you to do your job when employees stand behind the union manipulating the system. That being said, what are the daily duties of these officers? I am sure they make very good money as well. (Does anyone know how much?) Laundry, Sabo and Lottie have been active in our community. They are well liked and well respected. An investigation is definitely warranted here. So, where's the follow up? What's happening now?
Anonymous
Sun Mar 7 2010 19:05
Speaking as someone who's spouse works on law enforcement, just what ARE Sabo and Lottie's contributions to the campus? Have they done anything beyond the minimum scope of their jobs? In fact, their tenure seems marked by schizophrenia, such as harassing students for minor violations, yet letting DWI offenders with pot go free. I'd just like to see a police chief who doesn't hide in her office and can communicate amicable with faculty and staff. For the kind of dough she's pulling down for overseeing a tiny force, she should be doing something productive.
Anonymous
Thu Mar 4 2010 21:49
88k for an asst. chief for an 8 officer force? Hell, that would would fund 2 liberal arts asst. profs. And those guys might actually do something productive, like educate students.
Wally
Wed Mar 3 2010 18:02
As a faculty member, I've grown used to Sabo ignoring most e-mails, responding snottily to questions, etc... I can just imagine she's a ton of fun as a boss.
Anonymous
Mon Mar 1 2010 19:07
For the record. Eight Officers work at UPD only 7 signed. One abstained on advise of his CCivil Rights Lawyer
Anonymous
Mon Mar 1 2010 14:53
Seriously? Lottie makes $88,000? Does a department with 8 officers really need an assistant chief?
In response to Feb 27, 8:59, I hope that President Ettling does the right thing and supports his officers instead of supporting his management. The UP management does not deserve to be supported. I am sure that the entire force probably would have signed this vote of no confidence if they weren't afraid of the repercussions. Let's see some of the examples of the contributions to the campus and community that has come from these three individuals. In my opinion, any personnel that has a civil law suit filed against them becomes more of a liability than a contribution. Let's "step up to the plate" and support our campus police officers.
Anonymous
Mon Mar 1 2010 14:00
Lottie...88,000??? Get rid of Lottie, save the state some money, and most likely solve "some" of the problems.
Anonymous
Mon Mar 1 2010 12:10
maybe Sabo and Lottie should look into Grambling University. That seems to be the place the SUNY Plattsburgh "screw ups" end up going to.
Anonymous
Mon Mar 1 2010 10:03
We should "step up to the plate" and support 3 people? Maybe we should "step up to the plate" and support the rest of the department that has proof of their claims. Obviously Lottie, Sabo and Laundry have some fooled.
Anonymous
Mon Mar 1 2010 09:54
based on 2008 payroll
Laundry - $127K
Sabo - $100K
Lottie - $88K
Anonymous
Sun Feb 28 2010 09:18
okay 8 officers names are listed in the article not 7 .... still doubt this is the entire SUNY force. Looks like the state union is using Plattsburgh as their pawn for their de-centralization "cause" .....
Another Concerned Citizen
Sun Feb 28 2010 08:17
"Concerned Citizen" ---- "Anonymous" is a default name and not the same individual commenting each time.... and you obviously have issues and perhaps should focus on those rather than this.
Anonymous
Sat Feb 27 2010 16:53
WHATEVER JM! You are soooo revealing.... we all know you are. Give me a break!
Concerned Citizen
Sat Feb 27 2010 14:50
Anonymous You Suck, your obviously are either the chief or one of the other 2 involved and I personally Know some of the officers out of the 7 which is basically the entire FORCE at Suny Plattsburgh Campus and the one's that are not on there are probably either passive and scared or so far up the chiefs ass that they didn't get involved. WAKE UP And do a Full Force investigation because enough is enough. What the chief is doing is a Disgrace to the community it is a small department that has to handle over 6,500 students and insure there safety within a small area of plattsburgh NY. All of this Starts at the TOP from President John Ettling You need to do something Sabo needs to resign or maybe you John Ettling are just as responsible as Sabo and her Unjust and improper treatment of almost her entire Department who has come forth in this great nation with there freedom of speech and stated the facts and you ignore them well your ignorance will be the downfall of you and your Unprofessional management in this matter. KARMA Is BITCH you should GET RID OF THE BITCH and her Hitler LIKE Klan This need to also be brought to a National Level I am sure 60 minutes or a show of equal Quality will enjoy opening this can of worms and put all you asshole in the Hot seat. Very Unprofessional Get it right, do the right thing before its too late for you John and go go down with Chief Hitler Sabo and her cure.
JM
Sat Feb 27 2010 14:04
Just 7 officers? Are you "anonymous" for real? That's the whole police department. That's the working force of the department. Your great Sabo and Lottie are going to cost the State of NY millions of dollars for wrongfully having one of there own officer's arrested!! This FAR EXCEEDS any contribution they made have made! You should step up to the plate a start would be not signing ANONYMOUS..
JM
Sat Feb 27 2010 13:58
Its great to see the support of people that worked with these individuals and didn't have any idea of how incompetent they were. Its just like the wife beater or murderer that lives next door to you and you are shocked when you find out.The facts are the facts whether you believe them or not. I don't see anywhere in the article asking for anyone's resignation. What needs to be done now is a complete investigation of these charges.
Anonymous
Sat Feb 27 2010 11:40
After reading this article, I do not believe that these individuals would do this type of thing. Each of them has worked at our college for many years, and they have shown some good leadership qualities. I do not think that these individuals would be involved in such incidents as this union is stating. Each of these individuals has worked hard to ensure that students and faculty are safe on campus. These individuals are true professionals, and I do not think that they are capable of committing any of the crimes that they are being accused of. None of these individuals should resign, as these charges seem to be bogus.
Anonymous
Sat Feb 27 2010 08:59
I hope that President Ettling does the right thing and supports his management. Keep in mind these are seven officers NOT the entire force. These issues can be resolved internally and communication can be restored with some mediation. Lottie, Sabo, and Laundry’s contribution to the campus and community FAR EXCEED the opinions of these 7 people! Obviously there is more to this story and no hasty decisions should be made. The campus community, students and facility, should “step up to the plate” and support Lottie, Sabo and Laundry.
Anonymous
Sat Feb 27 2010 04:18
I truely hope SUNY investigates these claims. Politics and Policing do not mix well. It must have taken a great deal of courage or frustration for these officers to come forwared even though they now will face repercussions.






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