Top College News Subscribe to the Newsletter

New stimulus package would forgive student debt

Staff Writer

Published: Friday, September 18, 2009

Updated: Thursday, September 17, 2009 21:09


A new economic stimulus proposal has been suggested that would forgive debt accrued by college students nationwide.

This proposal, made by Robert Applebaum, founder and executive director of forgivestudentloandebt.com, calls for all student loan debt to be forgiven. Applebaum also created a group on Facebook called "Cancel Student Loan Debt to Stimulate the Economy," which has gained a following of nearly 228,000 members.

"This plan is a recipe for a sustained recovery," Applebaum said in an e-mail.

The Albany Common Council took the same idea issued in this proposal and passed a resolution last month by a unanimous vote. It urges the Federal Government to consider an economic stimulus plan that would erase student loan debt.

This is the first time any elected officials have considered such a plan.

The proposal suggests if students aren't forced to make payments on their loans, they will have cash to spend, which would stimulate the economy and give the flow of money in this country a steady push.

The proposal is meant to alleviate all outstanding student loans, making "no distinction between types of loans, undergraduate or graduate, public or private, whether the degree was obtained or not, whether in default or not."

The proposal made by Applebaum not only suggests forgiving student loan debt, but it also proposes a complete restructuring of the way students pay for college.

Applebaum believes the government should take a bigger part in paying for the higher education they have always encouraged people to pursue.

Several students on campus agree with Applebaum's proposal, saying they think it's a good idea for a stimulus package.

"It definitely couldn't hurt," said Matthew Degudicibus, one of several students who thinks the proposal is a good idea. Out of 15 students who were asked about the proposal, 10 said it sounded like a good idea and 11 said it would stimulate the economy. Five students said it was a bad idea, and four said they thought it would do nothing to stimulate the economy.

"Some people could take advantage of it," said student Liam Ward.

Todd Moravec, director of student financial services, has his doubts about such a proposal's success.

"Such a legislation of forgiving loans on a mass scale might be bad public policy," he said. "If you know you don't need to pay it back, you're going to go out and buy things, and taxpayers end up paying for these things."

Moravec said he believes forgiving students of their loans would inevitably lead to "reckless spending."

But reckless or not, it seems everyone from lawmakers to retail stores are calling for people to loosen the purse strings a bit and spend more money.

Why not give a little extra spending money to the younger population who seems the most eager to do just that?

Neal Duffy, associate professor of economics and finance, said he doesn't believe this proposal is the answer to our economic downturn.

"If you forgive these debts, where does the money come from? It's coming from tax payers, basically," he said.

Duffy said "money doesn't grow on trees," and printing money would cause inflation.

Similarly, taxing the upper-class more would merely result in a slew of unhappy taxpayers. He said "we should get back to conservative accounting principles."

Duffy said he believes this is just what the weakened economy needs.

Recommended: Articles that may interest you

24 comments

Anonymous
Sun Mar 14 2010 21:10
Debbie - I think this is a great idea. Graduate - thousands of dollars in student loan debt, no jobs - How do we survive. The Government gave so much money to the banks that abused the funds, why not help the average person who just wants to make an honest living.
Mike Hawk
Wed Feb 24 2010 15:49
LOLOLOLOLZ FIRST!!!!!!
CODY
Mon Nov 9 2009 20:10
These comments serve to provide an insight into the true function of the education field in this USA. Mostly,higher education is just so much mist. Pay pay and pay and realize very little benefit--just a piece of worthless paper.
Melanie KK
Thu Oct 15 2009 22:54
All of the Student Loan Forgiveness information I just read about is a huge gift to my emotionial well being! I have been feeling very alone, frustrated and stupid - for naively believing that obtaining an education would be an excellent benefit to my future. Most student loan stories are complicated!!!. Mine certainly is. I went back for my BA degree about six years ago while continuing to work full time. Upon graduation, I realized that a BA was not really enough to do anything with. However, the FAFSA and Private Loans were practically being handed to me on a silver platter. And then... the economy crisis began! I was on the beginning cusp of the great financial down slide. I lost my home to forclosure and was forced into bankruptcy. Of course, I wasn't able to discharge my student loans in the BK... even though the amount was equal to all of the "other" debt that was ultimately discharged. (My 350K home in CA was auctioned off for @ 85K. My 401K melted down to less than 1/2 and is now gone! So much for equity, investment and retirement funds!) I then moved from California to Texas in order to help care for aging parents and attend grad school... which was part of my original plan anyway. I still wanted believe that things would turn around and/or eventually become more do-able. Right now, I owe about $300 K in student loans. (Don't even ask how that could possibly be!) I would be more than grateful for some assistance. I truly feel like we, students, are treated like criminals for incurring educational debt... while other business and private debt is forgiven and bailouts continue!!! I'm an "old" (60 in November), white, widow, female -so, this kind of debt forgiveness discrimination is not just a minority... marginal... and/or youth only issue. This is a severe problem for many different people for a multitude of reasons. To finish the shorter version of my longer story, I had a stroke last year. This unexpected event has seriously changed my physical ablilities and my "positive" (or naive) emotional enthusiasm for future possiblities. (Before the stroke... I didn't realize I was actually knocking on the door of 60. And the lenders didn't even hint that my future income earning ablility could easily become compromised. Of course - that would be age discrimination, right?!?) Finally, none of the three attorney's I recently contacted would even consider re-opening my bankruptcy in order to request the courts reconsideration of a discharge of the student loans . It appears that the Brunner case law sets a very high standard for the burden of proof, which is "hardship". It is apparently very rare... (and it also seems to be quite subjective) for the courts reconsideration of most circumstances - even when the possible repayment of student loans is slim and/or overwhelmingly difficult. (Maybe the lenders had all the legislative backing for the implementation of the stricter laws - for the total benefit of themselves?!?) Anyway, I was black-balled from medical insurance after my stroke. (That is another serious discussion for another time!) Thankfully, about 80% of my recovery has been quite miraculous. However, the other challenges of the outstanding 20%... have certainly changed my vision for the future. So... I will continue taking one class per semester, in order to keep my student medical insurance until I'm 65, or until a medical insurance company will accept me with the "pre-existing conditions" of a stroke etc. I will continue to help take care of my elderly father and work on my own physical strength and recovery. And... I will continue to make the minimum payments on my one "private" student loan that has become due at this time. When I graduate in 2015, l most likely will NOT be able to work at any kind of major income making job... and by then the remainder of all my 300K (plus) of student loans will become due. (I guess, like Scarlett O'hara in "Gone With The Wind"...I will just have to worry about that tomorrw!!!) In addition... taking one day at a time and putting my trust in God's hands... is all I can do for now. Oh... I will also cheer y'all on! This is a good cause - even if I were not in the position of being assisted by it's success!!! Thank you! Thank you for bringing this to the attention of the administration and the public. Thank you for helping us (all sudents) to be treated with some respect for our efforts. Total forgiveness would be optimal... partial forgiveness, with realistic consideration of circumstances, would be welcome... and/or a more "fair" interest rate that doesn't set us up for failure would be justice!!! Thank you too... for listening!
Struggling everyday
Thu Oct 15 2009 02:43
It is hard for all of us to pay back these student loans that we thought were a wise investment in our futures, but none more so than people who suffer from an unexpected catastrophe - medical problems, death, divorce, business failure, loss of employment or home or the like, and have already run out of forbearance or deferment time. These are the very reasons why we allow people to try to reorganize and get a fresh start under bankruptcy- yet student loans are not eligible! It's beyond unfair, its draconian. Even if you don't go along with completely cancelling student loan debt, what about the government forgiving interest and penalties as a temporary stimulus measure until the whole broken student loan system, including lack of relief in bankruptcy for those who are insolvent, can be reformed? Thanks Jenna Burleigh, for focusing in a student newspaper on this bubble that's about to burst. I sincerely hope that your readers will be able to find jobs, stay healthy and solvent and repay their loans upon graduation. Meanwhile, AIG goes on, using another 198 million of bailout money to pay another round of executive bonuses
Robin
Sun Oct 11 2009 22:37
I am a 41 year old mother of two with an M.Ed.;Sp.Ed and still have $43,000 left to pay on my student loans. I work in a low-income school and have for over ten years. There is a teacher forgiveness loan which could eliminate a good portion of my loan amount - but because I have one loan of about $2,000 from my first year in college - I am not eligible. The cut of date for the forgiveness is that year. I stated that I would pay that loan and then could they help - the answer of course was no. I work one full time job and four part time jobs to support my family and pay for my two daughter's tuitions because I make too much for them to receive any scholarships, grants or enough of a loan to cover their tuition. Help the real people and stop bailing out the big corporations that just take bonuses with the money they receive from stimulus packages. I would love a bonus!!
Your name
Sun Oct 11 2009 22:36
I am a 41 year old mother of two with an M.Ed.;Sp.Ed and still have $43,000 left to pay on my student loans. I work in a low-income school and have for over ten years. There is a teacher forgiveness loan which could eliminate a good portion of my loan amount - but because I have one loan of about $2,000 from my first year in college - I am not eligible. The cut of date for the forgiveness is that year. I stated that I would pay that loan and then could they help - the answer of course was no. I work one full time job and four part time jobs to support my family and pay for my two daughter's tuitions because I make too much for them to receive any scholarships, grants or enough of a loan to cover their tuition. Help the real people and stop bailing out the big corporations that just take bonuses with the money they receive from stimulus packages. I would love a bonus!!
Your name
Mon Oct 5 2009 22:34
We need student loan reform!!! We all need together, go out on the streets and protest! We don't have to put up with this slavery of student loans anymore! I also made the huge mistake to take out a private loan of $50,000 to get my BS Degree. Private Student Loans are a death sentence and the worst of all. With capitalized interest and with 30 yrs of repayment, I will pay back nearly $150,000 on than loan!!! This is insane! Sallie Mae are a bunch of greedy and evil financial terrorists who want us to be their slaves for the rest of our lives! Where is the American freedom our ancestors fought for! Sallie Mae paid money to congress to make Private Student Loans not eligible for bankruptcy discharge in 2005. I lost my job in October 2008 and sadly had a lot of medical problems as well. I simply cannot pay back that loan anymore. Lawmakers are suppose to work for the citizens, not for big corporations! I'm going to fight Sallie Mae with all my strength to the end!!! YES I AM MAD AS HELL!!! I'll make sure those bankruptcy laws are changed! We all need to join forces to bring those predatory lenders down!!!
El Jefe
Mon Sep 28 2009 21:19
Some of us comes from the hood, the streets, the middle class all aiming to be successful. We take out loans thinking we are going to get jobs that will pay them in the future, when now a days, jobs are cutting cost and paying less for graduates coming out of school. "

Damn, given the lack of grammar and coherent thought in that passage, you may well have wasted quite a lot of dough. If you're still in this situation, and still blaming Whitey, than maybe that Afro studies major wasn't such a good choice.

BTW, Johnny, I'm still paying off my (much smaller because I'm Caucasian) loans, and it's no one's fault but mine.

Your name
Mon Sep 28 2009 19:04
Hi Jonathan P:
What you say might be true in some cases. But please search your heart when I tell you I am white, and in an even worse student loan debt situation than you. At least in terms of how much money I owe. This problem in reality affects everyone who was ever stupid enough to be young. Who was ever stupid enough to learn how to put a signature on paper. As far as the people who ultimately profited from all this? I think they are from the Hippie generation. Which is Ironic. Probably white, but they ain't me.
JonathanP
Sun Sep 27 2009 22:37
We didnt make choices to pay 40,000 in interest after graduating. I borrowed 80k which I am more than happy to pay, but being schemed into going to college for what we want to do is not something we should live with when all we are doing is educating ourselves. Most of us realistically know the debt will not clear out, but we need some solution. It pisses me off when people who don't know individual circumstances, say things like now live with it. SOme of us dont have the WHITE, The Rich on our sides to help us through school. Some of us comes from the hood, the streets, the middle class all aiming to be successful. We take out loans thinking we are going to get jobs that will pay them in the future, when now a days, jobs are cutting cost and paying less for graduates coming out of school. Some of our fields of study change the salary and lower everyones expectations. I didn't chose to owe 145 k . I chose to pay back 80k, but because I had to support myself and work, my interest grew while in school. I never borrowed more than tuition and til this day, 2 years out of college, I have yet to default or lower my credit score which is still in the excellent range. We need options like the recent IBR plan for both private and federal. Not just for people who have federal loans. We need 0 interest rate for the entire term of our loan. This will help us pay out our debts. We need lower college tuition fees. More better jobs that pay for your hard work. Some of us actually went to college to help the people who say well live with it. Some of us actually care to help others as well as ourselves. We cant even consolidate our loans because only 3 companies offer this for private loans. We are stuck and need just as much help as the auto industry, the housing market, etc.

If I had an extra 1200 a month (which is my paycheck a week before taxes) I would buy a house, or a new car or clothes, better food, vacation but no I can't because 1200 a month goes to my student loan. No one will help me consolidate my loans because I make 35k a year and its to low. My mom makes 35K a year and she can't co sign for me. It's not like we don't try but the "choices" we made, some of us were trapped and had no idea this would be the outcome, so yes, we made a choice and we are living it, but we need help. OPTIONS!

El Jefe
Fri Sep 25 2009 17:06
If you have hundreds of thousands in student loans, and didn't go to law or med school, you're a fool. Perhaps you should've gone to Indiana instead of Cornell, or PSU instead of Hartwick. Reminds of my sister's ex who went to Vanderbilt Law over U of Houston and Ole Miss because of the 'prestige,' and now works in an office with Houston and Ole Miss grads. Perhaps you should look at the relationship between gov't loan increases and tuition increases that exceed the rate of inflation. You made these choices; now you get to live with the effects.
Bachelor of Farts
Thu Sep 24 2009 21:16
What came first? The Chicken or the Egg?
What Came first? The Student Loan, or the Drug Addict, or the Alcoholic? Or all Three?
Happy Holidays
richard
Thu Sep 24 2009 13:21
I am 44 years old and a father of two. I go to work every day as a lawyer - in a two person firm and make $65,000.00 a year gross. I have $134,000 in student loans and make a$300/month payment to 2 of my three lenders. I have a gov william d ford loan - the biggest at $109,000.00, which is in forebearance. and I don't make any principal payments on this. I would lolve to have this debt forgiven not so I can live the large life - as i don't - but I know it's not just me who suffers from this burden and it's not "our fault" Educating people in this country has become big business like healtchare and we the people get to pay the bonuses and get stuck with the bills for the rest of our lives.
Your name
Thu Sep 24 2009 13:10
I just think this group, and its intended goal are awesome. I hope more and more folks join and pressure their representatives to look closer at the issue. Sure, some folks irresponsibly used their student loans, and as evidenced by the outcry over other bailouts, folks want to bail out responsible folks in a bad place - not irresponsble folks. One thing anyone could agree on is that it cost $xxxx to pay for tuition at their school - this dollar amount is easily verified without anyone needing to talk with the student loan borrower. Take this amount, tack on a reasonable amount for books (maybe an allowance of $100-$150 per class? All of us who attended college know how expensive books are). Maybe they should calculate this amount, and reduce folks student loan debt by this amount. Then the irresponsible still are paying for their irresponsibility, while the responsible are "set free" or at least much better off. If folks are allowed to refinance the amount left, their monthly payments would drop dramatically!
Your name
Wed Sep 23 2009 11:27
Sallie Mae bought Congress and convinced them to exclude student loan holders from the option to file for bankruptcy. This exclusion is unconstitutional. I believe forgiving the capitalization of loans would be more than enough to stimulate the economy. My origional student loan after graduation was $75K. And I believe I should pay the original loan back. But, because of interest iupon interest practices and deferments, my loan has morphed to $174K. I would file for bankruptcy in a heart-beat. Why can't I?
Nita
Wed Sep 23 2009 11:25
My husband and I have a combined federal loan debt of $300K. We feel pulled to give back so work at universities that pay 1/3 to 1/2 of what we could make in private industry. Forgive loan debt, even if at 50%, and lock in reasonable rates that do not increase, and we will resume responsible spending.

Tired of industry getting the bail outs and assistance and those of us paying for it see nothing in return. Cash for clunkers -- who can afford the new car payment and increase in insurance? Funds for a down payment on a house -- who can afford a higher monthly payment, taxes and upkeep? Those that can afford it to begin with.

Your name
Tue Sep 22 2009 18:10
Student Loans do inhibit marriage. I am divorced. A very large part of the stress in the marriage had to do with my student loans, and the fear that my ex had of having the house and any other assets taken away someday. I heard a radio show last week featuring financial advice, and the host advised a person with a large amount in Student Loans not to get married because the debt is then shared by both.
I owe two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. It started out as seventy five thousand in 1997. I can't sleep nights. Am terrified at times that I will be thrown in a debtors prision that will be fabricated. I don't want to grow old so much any more, because I have these strange fantasies from time to time of a squalid old age with a pittance leftover from Social Security and any other assets to survive on. I also had more strange thoughts today. After hearing a radio commercial for a life Insurance policy, I started wondering what would happen to the proceeds if I did buy a policy. Would the beneficiary get anything? If the money was garnished, would the Student Loan people leave enough for the cost of a burial so that my family wouldn't have to pay out ten thousand dollars or more? Perhaps the true benefiaciarys of the whole Student Loan situation are the people in the adult beverage business. But still that is no excuse for not staying sober, one indebted day at a time.
Kristina
Tue Sep 22 2009 14:13
I'm in the same boat with over $200,000 in student loans (half are private), no life, and I live in my grandfather's basement even though I have a great career. I think the bankruptcy rules need to be addressed, because so many of us would qualify if they were bankruptcy-able. The cost of education has ballooned because universities knew they could continue to raise tuition once people had the option of borrowing through private loans. If these loans were less available, schools would realize their enrollment would drop if they continued to raise tuition. I am 34 and desperately want to have a family, but I can't see how I could ever do this in my current financial situation. My boyfriend is terrified to marry me and take on this debt. I should be buying a house and a new car now that my career is underway. How on earth will we ever save for retirement when we're paying student loans until we collect social security? I feel like private loans are the new mafia loan sharks.....there seems to be no way to get out from under this right now. I am glad to hear I'm not the only one going through this misery. We have to do something!
Sam
Tue Sep 22 2009 06:23
Duffy makes some vaid points. However, the money need not come from the taxpayer. It should come from the private Company Sallie Mae, and the banks as compensation for the practice of usury. Also every University should pay into a common fund, like an insurance industry guarantee fund, since the schools likewise benefitted from student loans over a long term. One Sallie Mae executive in particular should be forced to sell his private golf course, which might raise a few bucks.






log out